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[The film] has a powerful emotional
appeal due to the extreme violence that is portrayed, and I do
not doubt that from this aspect it is much nearer to the truth
than anything produced before it. Whether this emotional reaction
has any value regarding a person's response to the gospel is
debatable.

Andy Talbot, England |
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I have seen the film and
found it disturbing for various reasons. It has a powerful
emotional appeal due to the extreme violence that is portrayed,
and I do
not doubt that from this aspect it is much nearer to the truth
than anything produced before it. Whether this emotional reaction
has any value regarding a person's response to the gospel is
debatable.
As
to whether this film portrays the truth, I found it to be a curious
mixture of biblical truth, error and superstition (added
material). A good example of error is right at the beginning
of the film where satan is attempting to divert Jesus from His
purpose, he makes various comments about no one being able to
bear the sins of the world. The scriptures however, inform us
that the spiritual rulers of this world did not know of God's
hidden plan of salvation, and if they had known they would not
have crucified Jesus, as this was the act that led to their downfall
(1 Cor 2:7-8). There are many examples of extra-biblical material
some of which are very odd, an example being when a large black
crow alights on the cross of the thief who rejected Jesus, and
pecks out his eye?
One thing is evident, and that is the exaltation
of Mary the mother of Jesus. Throughout the film she is very
prominent, and
is apparently endowed with power beyond the natural, an example
being when she somehow knows the location of Jesus in an underground
cell, and pressing her ear to the ground appears to communicate
with Him. Another event which seems significant, is at the foot
of the cross when Mary expresses a desire to die with Jesus (co-redemptrix
?)
The link below has some interesting material, especially the
comparison of the film to the visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich,
an Augustinian nun, stigmatic and ecstatic who was born in 1774
and died in 1824. This does present some strong evidence as to
the source of much of the extra-biblical material in the film.
http://www.challies.com/
archives/
cat_the_passion_of_the_christ.html
Andy
Talbot, England
This movie is totally Roman.
To really understand Yeshua, Gibson should read the Brit ha dasha
first as do all followers of the Ceasers.
Javier Marin, USA
I agree totally with your
article. I did expect it to be "catholicised" and
only saw it so as to be able to answer questions from those whom
were being told it was "awesome" & a "must
see".
Patsy
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Like a typical Mel Gibson film
- blood and guts. He is being true to his nature. All
the movie does is please the flesh, nothing
spiritual
about it. [The film is] definitely
counter-productive.

Larry Filato
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Like a typical Mel Gibson film
- blood and guts. He is being true to his nature. All the movie
does is please the flesh, nothing spiritual about it. Definitely
counter-productive. Mel used the church to promote the movie.
Think about how many "religious" people
will go and see the movie. It was even endorsed by Mr. Billy
Graham and other famous so called fathers of the faith (and
if Mel recieved
thier blessings money is soon to follow). The master said You
cannot serve GOD and mammon. Guess who their god is? This movie
will not
make a difference in peoples lives. It will go by the wayside.
I see a lot of so called churches trying to capitalize on the
movie.
Larry Filato
I have been a Christian
for nearly 20 years and this movie has definitely had a positive
visual impact on my soul as far as appreciating my salvation
in Christ even more after seeing how much God loved us and how
much Christ suffered to pay for my sins. Aside from all the minor
innacuracies of injected scenes of Catholicism you mentioned
that were typed into the movie, have you ever considered that
God might still be able to use this movie to witness to hardcore
Catholics who have forgotten that salvation comes through Christ
and not through Mary or the Roman Catholic Church? God uses many
things for different purposes both good & bad regardless
of it's genuine Christian quality. Many things are beyond our
own reasoning and thoughts to ever understand. Does not the potter
have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery
for noble purposes and some for common use? Romans 9:21.
Joe C., USA
Well, I saw the movie and
I can't deny the emotional powerhouse it is. Perhaps some might
be moved to repentance, and praise God for that. But! There are
indeed pitfalls in the movie which will no doubt strengthen the
Catholic lie... just read on -- you'll see the arguements in
this forum. Personally I tend to run the other direction at ANY
sign
of the "Christian masses" (no pun intended) flocking
toward anything. When everyone and their granny was reading the "Left
Behind" books I ran the other way. Can't people
see that satan loves to put slanted (if not false) doctrines
on the best-seller list? Just be careful when the whole "Christian" world
praises something. It usually means there is some deception in
it. Not always, but most of the time. I pray that Jesus would
truly get all the glory, in every way.
Daniel Hoffmann
I wrote a review of the movie
which can be read here: http://www.behindthebadge.net/articles/a118.html
I did not like the movie and find it hard to believe that Christians
can claim it follows the Bible.
Ralph Dettwiler, USA
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This is very Catholic and is not
biblical. As a movie it was good. Not great
but good. Definatly Mel Gibson's view of the
gospel.

Debbie, USA
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The film
was not as good as all the hype surrounding it. It did give me
a deep emotional response to what Jesus did for me. I am not
worthy. The thing that bothered me was the Mary images. She
was portrayed as giving Jesus the strength he needed to carry
on and complete the cross. This is very Catholic and is not biblical.
As a movie it was good. Not great but good. Definatly Mel Gibson's
view of the gospel.
Debbie, USA
It did'nt
go with the word of God; I found It had alot of misquotations.
There was a lot of honor given to Mary, John calling her
mother
before the Lord was on the cross. I could go on and on, but to
put it truthfully it was not all that good.
Marian, USA
I am a chirstian
and I am was personally extremly changed and moved by what I
saw. I left with a feeling that my sins hurt God and I could
get a glimpse of the kind of suffereing that Jesus experienced.
Yes
very violent, but did Jesus not suffer for us, did HE not get
crucified on a cross for YOU and for me and for the WORLD, John
3 v. 16. Should we not use this movie to encourage people to
seek the Truth, that Jesus died for our sins, that he is the
Messiah
and that we are saved through Him. Christians seem so eager to
judge yet won't stand up to the ignorant and evil. We are so
ready to tell people what they should or should not do or say,
yet all
God asks of US is to love our enemy and our neighbour. I think
the saddest part of all is the Christian faith stands so divided,
we cannot stand together and realise that we all believe in
the Trinity, the crucifiction and the resurrection or not???
Maybe this movie will change not only one or two hearts, but
many, and ONLY through The Lord Jesus can this be fullfilled,
not through Mel Gibson, not through you or I but through the
Lord Jesus.
Rosanna
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Whatever Mel Gibson may have said
to Diane Sawyer [interviewer on ABC], I
find the film on the whole is a good thing.
And
besides, as long as attention is drawn
to the person of Jesus, if people read the
Gospels after seeing the film, much good can
come of that.

Tom Fischer, Australia
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I took a
Greek Orthodox fellow who I employ in my Tatts shop to see the
film last Sunday. A person knowledgable in Roman Catholicism
would notice the stations of the cross, St. Veronica wiping Christ's
face, and Mary saying at the foot of the cross "I wish
I could die on that cross with you," which seems to hint
at the co-redemptrix idea. But that said, the theatre was full
and there was no talking during the entire film. The emotional
impact of seeing such a vivid depiction of Jesus' suffering.
It brought home in a way the intensity of Jesus' suffering in
a way previous films have not. In comparison to Jesus as presented
here, the Jesus of earlier films seems a bit effeminate. So to
make a long story short, the enormity of Jesus suffering for
me induced feelings of gratitude and an an increased interest
in personal holiness. Basically I expected Roman Catholic nuances
in the film, and ignored them. I doubt the average viewer would
even be aware of them. And if the
film is so evil, why are Jews and the Hollywood elete so upset
with Mel for making the movie. They seem fearful that Christianity
could still impact our culture. Many commentators who are involved
in taking the Gospel to Roman Catholics are using the film as
more of an occasion to comment on Roman Catholic theology, than
on the film itself. Whatever Mel Gibson may have said to Diane
Sawyer, I find the film on the whole is a good thing. And besides,
as long as attention is drawn to the person of Jesus, if people
read the Gospels after seeing the film, much good can come of
that. But we need not fear that people are going to leave the
film and flock into Catholic churches, whether of the Vatican
II kind or the Tridentine kind. The latter group is very tiny,
and the Roman Catholic church is acting as if the film did not
exist. Evangelicals are making use of the film, and if they take
someone to the film, and then introduce them into Bible study
afterward, then much good can come of that. The film is simply
an occasion to draw attention to Jesus,and we can use this film
to do that, even while we oppose
Roman Catholic theology and give the gospel to them. For my part,
I am getting a free case of 200 New Testaments with the movie
poster on the cover from the Bible Society of Victoria, and will
be putting them on display with a sign "free for the taking." I
don't know what Tattersall's will think of that (incidentally,
on a lighter note, the Roman Solider gambling for the robe of
Jesus with dice looked like the spitting image of the late George
Adams, who died in 1904 after having founded Tattersalls) And
I probably will buy the cross with Isaiah 53:5 on the back, which
incidentally, did not have a corpus on it.
Having also been involved in Jewish ministry, I was moved to
hear the Aramaic Yeshua & Mashiach being repeated over and
over again. When the arrest of Jesus was reported to Mary, she
said the line from the Passover Seder ("why is this night
different than all other nights). Also, I saw an article on World
Net Daily's Web site where Jewish rabbis are worried, not about
anti-semitism (if anything, the film could be taken as anti-Italian
if you have seen the scourging scene). I'll close off by cugesting
that we don't need to fear Roman Catholicism, it is a spent
force in the world, and we should asses the film on its merits,
not hold Mel Gibson resonsible for centuries of Vatican heresy.
The fellow risked $30 million of his cash on a film that has
killed his acting career, so we should cut him some slack, even
as we are quite concerned that he embraces false traditional
Roman Catholicism. But he is still a human being who should not
be demonized.
Tom Fischer,
Endeavour Hills, Australia
I grew up as a Catholic and was educated
by the Jesuits. I also studied philosophy under them. What strikes
me as being so sad is the fact that Mel Gibson seems not to have
been taught by his church that the Bible says in John 3:16 "for
God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life" (NIV).
If Mel is/was so intent on portraying the events surrounding
the death of Jesus, surely he could have done more research and
got
it right in the film, even though it would have meant him ditching
the RC faith and accepting the real truth as revealed in Holy
Scripture? The facts and events surrounding this film ought to
spur born again
Christians on to continue to pray for those in the grip of deception
that they might come into the light of His truth, and accept
Jesus as their Saviour and King.
Leonard Seegers, Surrey, UK
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The church just cannot stand
to wait for the real so they have manufactured
the false. It is the New Testament version
of the Golden Calf, and they are bowing down
to it. I call it idolatry.

Robert Withall, Australia
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No I haven't seen it, I
don't need to, and I won't. The church just cannot stand to wait
for the real so they have manufactured the false. It is the New
Testament version of the Golden Calf, and they are bowing down
to it. I call it idolatry. It is a major turning point and will
play a part in the division between the true Church and the false.
It is amazing who is bowing down, however the steps up to this
temple have been paved with the fads of the last 12 years, for
many it has just been one short step. Has our God the God Of
Abraham Isaac and Jacob, the God of Israel, drawn a line in the
sand?
Robert Withall, Australia
I disagree, It's not entirely
accurate, true. But Christians don't blame the jews, they gave
us everything. The message was the cross and without it there
is no remission of sin for anyone. I love Jacob as a Brother
in the Lord, and enjoy many of his teachings but I know being
Jewish
the depts of his tolerance are not as deep. I also don't blame
him, afterall the holocust to come in Israel will be far worse
than the last.
Michael
This is the third time I am writing here, but I just discovered
something else which may be very significant. Did anyone else
notice red dots flashing on the screen at certain points in the
movie? I did but thought it was my imagination, however, a friend's
son who is a film major also noticed them (he thought there were
3 dots)and said maybe they were supposed to be subliminal messages.
This may be far worse than we think. Also I have been reading
that book by the nun and Mel isn't even creative. He just followed
the book as his screenplay. I'm horrified supposedly mature
Christian leaders have fallen for this nonsense.
Rosanne Kuipers, USA
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From the very first scene in
the Garden, this is not the Biblical account
of the crucifixion. Jesus is presented as
fearful and being tortured by Satan in the
Garden.

Cindy Lybolt, USA
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I just returned from seeing
the movie. I was concerned about the reaction of the Evengelical
church in general, and my church in particular, It seems all
areas of the Christian arena was supporting and claiming this
movie
was so Biblical. I knew it had been based on the visions of a
catholic mystic and portrayed Gibson's catholic beliefs. I had
no desire to see it, but to confront it in my church, I felt
I needed to. So, I've been immersed in the Gospels for the last
two weeks, and studying. I prayed that I would not experience
the movie,but rather go as a critical observer and that the falsehoods
would be evident. From the very first scene in the Garden, this
is not the Biblical account of the crucifixion. Jesus is presented
as fearful and being tortured by Satan in the Garden. The role
of Mary is clearly presented as that of the co-redemptrix. Peter
falls at her feet and confesses his denial of Jesus. The majority
of the movie is extra-biblical. the few scenes that are taken
from the Bible, usually the words are changed. The violence and
gore are totally gratitutious and just for shock and
an emotional reaction from the audience. The true suffering of
Jesus is never portrayed. The physical is added to, Jesus is thrown
off a bridge, caned, flogged back and front, beaten and stoned
by the mob. But, the darkness for the three hours, when God hid
Him from the world and the pain of the spiritual anguish of being
the sin offering was never shown. Then, the resurrection was completely
downplayed and misrepresented. They show the stone moving, but
no glory, no angels, no soldiers, no seal on the rock. nothing
that speaks of the power of God and the victory of the resurrection.
The burial cloths are portrayed looking exactly like the Shroud
of Turin, not as the Bible describes them. The worst is, Jesus
appears to still be in pain and to be confused, not victorious.
I couldn't watch the torture scenes. But, I am dumbfounded that supposedly sound,
Biblical preachers would endorse this film and claim that it is accurate. There
are so many errors, so many extras, of course, I guess they are all just seen
as artistic licence.
I can't see how any believing person would recommend this for evangelism because
it portrays a different gospel. Hopefully, it will allow some conversation but
if Christians ignore all the error, it would still have no value. I pray that
God will use this to bring some to salvation or restoration. God is supreme,
He will accomplish His purpose. But I don't believe that gives us licence to
advance an unbiblical movie for spreading His gospel. He can do as He pleases
but we are required to follow methodology He instructed us to use, the preaching
of the Word.
Sorry this is so long, I am very agitated at actually seeing such error. Thanks
for giving me a place to vent.
Cindy Lybolt, USA
Roman Catholicism is one of the devil's great masterpeices from
the deceptive false teaching of baptismal regeneration that deceives
Catholics to believe
they are already "born again" to being anti Christ in disobeying
Christ's command to "...call no man your father.. for you have one Father
even God.." the
tip of the iceberg of child molestation is so deep a part of the world of pontifex
maximus, it is recently becoming the great sea spewing up its mire and abominations
described in Revelation of the true Jesus Christ!
Mel Gibson the Catholic has been true to his light but he should take his own
advice and get into " the Book " and that preferably the KJV authorized
1611, someone should find out were the millions he is making on this Catholic
movie is going? if he is a true and faithful Catholic the pope will somehow
get in on the action to promote the mariolatry he so fervently promotes that
is also
anti - Christ. Finally, calling something "Christian" is one
of satan's great delights. muddying up the waters of the Lord by calling Christians
Catholic and vice versa, is one of the strongest warnings issued to us by the
true Christ." Many will come in My name.." and deceive many.
I am yours for the
Fine Linen - Rev. 19: 6-10
Michael D. Juzwick, USA
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Mel Gibson's film is better
appreciated as a painting rather than
a movie. A film requires
the essential qualities of a developing
story line, plot/sub-plot, character development, and
conflict/resolution. The "Passion" has
virtually none of these. But it certainly
has qualities that paintings of Christ have. A comparison
is
helpful.

Rev. Robb Finberg, USA |
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"Many were horrified at what happened to him. But
everyone who saw him was even more horrified because he suffered
until
he no
longer looked human. 15My servant will
make nations worthy to worship me; kings will be silent as they
bow in wonder. They
will see and
think about things they have never seen or thought about before."
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
(Isaiah 52:14-15)
Mel Gibson's film is better appreciated as a painting rather than
a movie. A film requires the essential qualities of a developing
story line, plot/sub-plot, character development, and conflict/resolution.
The "Passion" has virtually none of these. But it certainly
has qualities that paintings of Christ have. A comparison is
helpful.
Gibson may have employed a new form of artist expression
that could be called a "moving painting" or a 2 dimensional
film. By focusing on a subjective interpretation of a singular
event, he may have gone far in pioneering this as a new artistic
form of film making. Understanding the "Passion's" unique
genre may be helpful in interpreting the artist's use of history,
symbols and imagery.
Consider "The Passion" for a moment
as a painting. A painting is an image of an experience of the artist's
emotions
or intellect that he wishes to preserve for an audience. The creator
duplicates his impression in painting through editorializing, embellishing,
and symbolizing; that he hopes will evoke a similar response. How
successful he is in doing this determines the artistic value of
his work.
If the artist's focus is a landscape, for instance, he
may translate it into a subjective rendering. He utilizes various
levels of literal
imagery, but may editorialize as well, in order to capture precisely
what he considers valuable. His license allows him to omit objects
that distract, add symbols, alter hues, or even change perspective
if it will enhance his expression.
In this way, The Passion of the
Christ is analogous to a painting. The film is definitely not a
theological treatise, a historical
documentary, or some type of evangelistic presentation Nor is it
a real work of fiction. It is not even a story since, as already
stated, it lacks plot and character development. It is Gibson's
portrayal of Christ's Passion (Christ's Suffering), and as a thematic
image, and he uses artistic techniques to effectively impart substance
to this image.
Knowing about the artist is usually helpful in understanding
his painting. Without dispute Gibson's Roman Catholic influence
contributes
significantly to the film's perspective. Typical of Catholicism,
much extra-biblical and even apocryphal material is added. Some
have criticized the lack of emphasis on the resurrection, but that
is not Gibson's objective. For others, the brief scene attesting
the resurrection is nonetheless sufficient, and even poignant.
Since
the characters are flat and undeveloped, the only empathy that
the account allows for is the maternal bond that is displayed
by Mary, a compilation of her witnessing the cruelty of the Romans,
and her reminiscence of Jesus as a child. Without that, the audience
has no emotional connection to the characters. But again, that
is typical of a painting.
As to the film's historical or theological
base, I found it to have high integrity. The outcry against the
film has more to do
with fidelity to the historical account than by any distortion
of it.
Did the film make clear that the purpose of Jesus' sufferings
was for the sins of the world? Yes, from the outset. Before any
images are shown on the screen, a black field with stack white
letters declare, "He was wounded for OUR transgressions, He
was bruised for OUR iniquities." The first scene in Gethsemane,
the taunting of satan alludes to the purpose of dying for the sins
of the world. In the middle of the film, a flashback shows Jesus
teaching His disciples that His suffering and death is imminent
and He clearly states, "No man takes my life from Me. I lay
it down and I take it up again." This flashback might be unnecessary
if it were not for the film maker's wanting to show that the crucifixion
was entirely the enactment of Providential will.
Those familiar
with the Biblical record know that 700 years before Jesus' earthly
appearance, the prophet foretold that God was pleased
to offer His Son a sacrifice for sin. It further states in Isaiah
53 that He would be rejected, and few would believe the report
about Him.
It is interesting to note that in the same prophetic
passage, there is clear reference to the brutality of the crucifixion
resulting
in Him being "marred beyond recognition". This important
aspect of the sacrifice has been all but passed over in all other
movies, and even other forms of visual art. This graphic portrayal
of His scourging is, in my opinion, long overdue. It may have
been the compelling reason Gibson the Catholic, wanted to create
such
a film.
Rev. Robb Finberg, USA
Hi, I am a Christian and definately do not adhere to the Catholic
belief system. But what I was most impressed with from the movie,
was the love that Jesus had for all mankind as He endured the awful
sufferings that day. He could have called on our Heavenly Father
to send His angels to rescue Him at any time, but chose to follow
through with salvations plan. That is what I left the movie with.
I'm just so thankful that Jesus loves someone like me to have
endured to the end.
Gerry Wyatt
I went to see the movie and it was ok for
what it was, a movie! I also went with my 12 year old son and 70-something
parents. My son thought it was boring but my parents were moved
by the violence. Unfortunately in today's world our children are
already accustomed to violence but I saw in my parents they were
not. What a difference 3 generations can make. My parents and I
are knowledgeable and educated enough to know that truth mixed
with lies is not truth.
Linda Danehower, USA
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No human could have survived the beating
shown here [the film], much less made it to
the cross to be crucified. I felt that the
violence was the centerpiece of "The Passion"

Raymond Lyle, USA
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I promised myself to watch this movie with a discerning mind,
and I was amazed at the level of violence portrayed. No human
could have survived the beating shown here, much less made it to
the
cross to be crucified. I felt that the violence was the centerpiece
of "The Passion", and that the message of redemption
was secondary to Mr. Gibson's desire to show a movie about the
Catholic tradition of The Stations of the Cross. Why are the
leaders of the evangelical community so hot to use such a blatant
Catholic
movie for evangelistic purposes?
Raymond Lyle, USA
It was great to have the accurate article on this site to read
before I saw the flick. My general feeling was that the flick
was made by a man who did not know the real Jesus... Otherwise
salvation
would have been clearly preached - afterall that is what Jesus
came to do. To preach of the Kingdom; to die/be raised to save
souls. What is the point in making a movie about "the passion
of Christ" when the director shows himself to misunderstand
the passion of Christ to be humanistic?
Sarah, New Zealand
It seems to me that when people have watched
this film, they come away with a vivid picture of the crucifixion,
an image it seems that will stay with the mind, and cannot be shaken.
They don't see an empty cross anymore, what they do see however,
is found in every Catholic church. Christ still on the cross, being
crucified over and over again. How things never change.
Another
thing that comes to mind is that Mel Gibson didn't want subtitles
in his film, in fact that was how it was originally
shown during the first screenings. How typical of Catholicism,
portraying images without a language commonly understood. That
is what the early catholic church did in order to keep the masses
ignorant of the written Word. Now we have a film with burning images
that stay with the mind and with pictures that speak more than
the subtitles ever could. How scary to think that these images
are shown in a time when the Church has become illiterate to the
Word of God.
This film will do much for the ecumenical movement,
with naive Protestants and Evangelicals alike being blind sighted
by the church
of Rome and its traditions which are clearly shown in this movie
as the stations of the cross, and elevating Mary as a co-remptrix.
All
Hail Pontifex Maximus, let us forget the inquistition and let us
bury the reformers under the sands of tradition.
Nothing
new under the sun really is there?
Virginia Snape, Australia
I agree with Cleo Candelaria,
don't want to see it and why should my money go into Catholic
coffers? also agree with excellent piece by Tricia Tillin on
Moriel site. If this fim really portrayed the truth about salvation
it wouldn't have been made because no-one would have touched
it with a barge pole. How can a film so set on Roman Catholic
doctrine portray the truth in any way? How can Mel G be reaching
out to the unsaved when he is not saved? All this blood that
is shed, is it mentioned that it is only through the blood of
the Lord Jesus Christ that there is remission of sins for every
sinner of the world and that only in Him is found salvation for
He truly is the Son of God? Rosie Higgs, England
I thought the movie was horrid. I wouldn't recommend anyone
to see the movie.
I couldn't keep watching all the tearing of His
flesh during the scourging. I looked around at the people in the
theatre. All I
heard was people weeping. I noticed this more with the older crowd
and more of the younger crowd just watching. I think this is due
to a lifetime of blood, guts, and gore as their steady diet.
I am
sure there will be a few who will be saved by this movie. But if
9-11 didn't turn people to God (America anyway), I don't
think a movie will either. And when the movie is the topic of the
conversation, we certainly can take this time to share the Gospel
with them. As far as being scriptural - they didn't pluck Jesus'
beard in the movie either.
With all the Catholic overtones and all
Stations of the Cross given, I do not understand how Pastors can
recommend their flock
to see this film. Watchman who are not watchman.
Carol Champion, USA
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I thought the movie was horrid. I
wouldn't recommend anyone to see the movie.

Carol Champion, USA
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I saw the movie, The Passion of the Christ on Friday, and waited
a couple of days to post my comments so I would have time to sort
out my thoughts. I do think that Mel Gibson did do a good job showing
us the Passion, the Suffering of the Messiah. It was graphic and
a lot of blood was seen, but to show us how much Yeshua suffered
that was needed. One big thing I saw in the movie, that I don't
see in the scriptures were the Temple Guards, Jewish guards beating
Yeshua up on the way to the trial. You can see by what was said
that this came from a Roman Catholic background. If someone were
to say that this followed scripture 100 percent I would say they
are wrong. One part of scripture that was left out and that I was
looking for was out of Luke 23:28-31. Verse 31 reads For men do
these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is
dry? Now if it was in the movie, then I stand to be corrected.
I am a pastor of a congregation, and I think that pastors and leaders
should see this movie if their flock is asking a lot of questions.
If they don't see it, I really don't think they will be able
to give honest answers. Again, if the goal of the movie was to
show how much the Messiah suffered, that goal was accomplished.
I do have more thoughts, but these are enough for now, and I do
hope and pray that Yeshua is glorifed through all this.
Jim Rickard, USA
I am happy to report that I am finding others who came to the
same conclusion as I that the movie was mostly Medieval in tone.
Some other leaders of Messianic groups are saying the same thing.
Jacob needs to do a point by point analysis of the movie for us
to point out all the departures from Scripture and Catholic elements
in it. I am telling everyone I know what I think and saying 'I
like the Book, written by Jewish authors, better, thank you!'
Rosanne Kuiper, USA
All I can say is "I concur". Thanks Jacob for always
'shooting from the hip' so to speak. Jesus did. There is then
no room for misunderstanding or 'grey' areas. Blessings and Shalom,
in Him. Look forward to seeing you 5th March in Cape Town.
Clive
Didn't see. Don't want to see it. It'll be used to bring Christians
and Catholics closer together. I saw on the web site of a Baptist
Church (SBC) the quote (supposedly) made by the pope about this
film. This film shows Jesus carrying his cross, but doesn't Matt.
27:32 teach otherwise?
Cleo Candelaria, USA
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A gloss over with Aramaic and Latin
can't compensate for the inaccuracy of this
film. Most of the Romans would have spoken
Koine Greek not Latin as would many of the
Jews.
To say this film "is as it was" (as the pope is
quoted as saying) is nonsense. It is 'not as it was'. It
is rather 'as Hollywood says it was'.
This is a Catholic film, not an authentically
biblical one.
As God in His Word says: "A bad tree cannot bear good
fruit!"

Jacob Prasch,
Moriel, UK
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I have gone to see the movie twice. What disturbed me about the
movie also was that it had the 'feel' of an Italian medieval
painting, something Mel wanted to do. In no way did I get the 'feeling'
I was in Israel. In fact, as an Italian former Catholic, I felt
like I was very much watching an Italian movie and no matter what
langauge was being spoken, it all sounded Italian to me! Mel's
choice in making all the scenes look medieval spoke volumes to
me. I too am shocked by American Christian stupidity. The Gospel
of John movie was far better and no one hardly went to see it.
Rosanne Kuipers, USA
Profound.
David G. Myers, USA
In this movie the violence surrounding Yeshua's
death pictured just how much Yeshua must have phisicaly suffered
for me, but His suffering was far greater than this (spiritualy
and
emotionaly).
So there is no distraction from the true, but the scene with Mary
(not Miriam) who wants to die with Yeshua as co-redeemer and says
that
His flesh and heart is her's too, I found to be totally demonic.
The demonic is being shown in this movie but it is nothing compared
to the demon of Mary (not Miriam) who wants to take the place of
Jesus and be mediator as well.
I'm of polish background and a former Catholic too.
Joanna Celewic
I saw the movie "the Passion of the Christ" last night,
and I must tell you I had a very mixed reaction. One of my primary
concerns, and that which I also prayed about, was that this film
would be pleasing to God. I know that God can use some of the most
heinous things in the lives of people, but I was hoping that this
wouldn't be a film that was dishonoring to God. I was very shocked
how quickly evangelical leaders embraced this film, and if it proves
to be displeasing to God, they're credibility will most definitely
be questioned (as it should be). One of the things I observed in
the theater itself was the amount of Catholics in the audience.
They were easy to spot because they had ashes on their heads, and-since
I live in Southern California and know much of the social dynamics
here-there was a very large Hispanic group in the theater-and they
traditionally are Roman Catholic.
In the film itself, I had some issues. I think Mary, the mother
of Jesus, was much too prominent, and it would have served the
movie well to edit out about 20 minutes of scenes with her. Peter,
after he had denied Christ three times, was on his knees before
Mary, crying, and she reached out her hand to touch him and he
said the he wasn't worthy to have her touch him. Besides that,
you also had her cleaning up Jesus' blood with towels, and holding
him after he was crucified-which made me think of the carving (I
think it was Michelangelo who did it) that was produced in the
renaissance of Mary holding Jesus' dead body. It seems that everyone
in the movie calls her Mother, which is disturbing as well. While
I may be overly sensitive to any emphasis on Mary, it is quite
clear that the movie goes way beyond what scripture teaches about
Mary during Christ's sufferings.
There was also the personification of Satan in an actor, and also
demons being personified as children. The demon children torture
Judas until he hangs himself (again, not biblical). The emphasis
on Satan being present during Christ's sufferings is definitely
not biblical. Why people have to go beyond what the bible says
is a mystery to me-but I doubt it is for godly reasons, and I feel
like it actually is the opposite-they did it to hype up the story,
and dress it up in Hollywood drama.
As for Pontius Pilate, I think the film portrayed him accurately.
When I read the gospels, I get the distinct impression that he
didn't want to have Jesus crucified, but didn't want a riot to
happen-and that is what the film portrays! Pilate can wash his
hands all he wants, that doesn't make him any less responsible
for his decision to hand Jesus over to be crucified! So I found
the film accurate in regards to Pilate. I don't feel that it portrayed
him as benign, but rather as a man that compromised his judicial
responsibility to be just because of outward pressure-and that
surely doesn't negate his personal responsibility.
The sufferings portrayed in the film are, in my estimation, graphically
accurate except for a few things. There was the absence of Jesus'
hair and beard being torn out (Isaiah 50:6), and the placement
of the nails in the palms instead of the hands during crucifixion.
I really don't think either is a very big misrepresentation on
the sufferings of Christ, but if they indeed placed them in the
palms because as your web-site states "partially inspired
visions of two nuns into the 'stigmata'," then obviously it
is a major issue. Then it is no longer about what the bible or
history says-which there can be meaningful discussion about-it
is a matter of demonic influence.
That having been said, I think the scourging of Jesus, the thorn
crown, the mocking, the beatings, even the crucifixion (except
for the placement of the nails in the palms) is very accurate.
I have read in Josh McDowell's writings about the medical aspects
of Christ's scourging and crucifixion, and it seems that they portray
it very close to that. They even separated His shoulder in nailing
him to the cross, and dropped the cross into a hole-something I
believe is very accurate as to what actually happened.
So what about my personal reaction? Well, I think most true believers
seeing the film will be impacted positively by seeing the sufferings
of Christ portrayed, and it should cause us to reflect on His sacrifice,
our sin, and the theological implications of His death. I was very
solemn after the film. And it made me appreciate all the more what
Christ did for me. The portrayal of Christ crucified is biblical
(the gospel accounts; cf. Gal 3:1). But in a movie? I am not so
sure. Obviously there are some serious issues just by having an
actor portraying the Son of God. And I can honestly say there are
other issues in this film, and that people don't need to see Christ's
physical sufferings as much as they need to hear the message of
the gospel. And the gospel message is not very easily discerned
from the film (I am pleased to say though, that John 14:6 is quoted
in the film, and while Mel Gibson might not see faith in Jesus
as necessary to enter the Kingdom of God, at
least Jesus' quote to the contrary is in the film). In the end,
I can honestly say that I can't recommend it in a clear conscience.
And I certainly wouldn't want to be held responsible for recommending
the film to people, so I surely won't be doing that. But any insight
or advice that you can give me in these regards, I would most certainly
appreciate it.
James, USA
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One of the things I observed in
the theater itself was the amount of Catholics in the audience.
They were easy to spot because they had ashes on their heads.

James, USA
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Agree with all Jacobs comments
and would like to add...
This movie is actually the Catholic
ritual known as "The
Stations of The Cross" brought to life on the big screen.
Catholics believe it to be beneficial for believers to experience
the steps of Jesus. All the so called stations of the cross appear
in the movie. Gibson, talented filmmaker that he is has produced
a movie that draws the viewers into the ritual.
This of course
is a religious tradition of men and has no basis in scripture.
I
have no doubt that this ritual aided by the imagery of the movie
has the potential to produce a powerful emotional reponse
in viewers. While emotions are good and God given we are not
to be ruled or led by them and we certainly don't commune with
God through them.
One other thing. It appears that after the pedophile priest scandals
of the last couple of years, this film is doing more to rehabilitate
the reputation of the Catholic church than a thousand PR firms
could ever do. This may well be the greatest recruitment tool
for the Catholic church ever. And your right it is sad when protestants
and even hard shell Baptists help Catholics with their efforts.
Steve Lumbley, USA
Another
thing that has bothered me about this film is all the talk
about the emotional
experience that the film will invoke on people by viewing it.
This concern I have is due to the fact that true Christian
worship is Logos based or based on what God has said, and this
film is
another experience in a long line of experience based events
that are moving the world and those within the church into
an image based, experienced based pagan type worship.
With more and more distractions coming out every day, from
the newest programs (G-12, Gospel Mall to Megachurch), to the
next
big book (Purpose Driven Life, ...Church, etc...) the study of
God's Word for Divine instruction about life and Godliness is
being pushed
to the side and with it His people are perishing for lack of
true knowledge.
David Lister, USA
I thank you for your forthrightness
in upholding the truth, in this article. This film is doing more
harm to HIM than good.
And I fear for the Foundation of those that come to know him this
way. I am already engaged in HEATED debate with believers regarding
this that the TRUTH must be the TRUTH and not a Catholic/Holywood
(Sic) rendition?
I am redeemed by his blood and encouraged MUCH by you Jacob and
those gathered around you.
Tony Piche, USA A
gloss over with Aramaic and Latin can't compensate for the
inaccuracy of this film. Most of the Romans would have spoken
Koine Greek not Latin as would many of the Jews.
To say this film "is as it was" (as the pope is quoted
as saying) is nonsense. It is 'not as it was'. It is rather
'as Hollywood says it was'.
This is a Catholic film, not an authentically
biblical one.
As God in His Word says: "A bad tree cannot bear good fruit!"
Jacob Prasch, UK
I want to thank Jacob Prasch
for his review of this movie. When I first
heard of the movie, I knew in my spirit that something was wrong,
and
couldn't explain it. Mr. Prasch explains it well. I would only
add that
Yahshua's sacrifice for me is so very personal that it bothered
me that it
would be exploited on the big screen.
Mary Whalen,
Vanceburg, KY My church, my fellowship
group is going, my husband is going. I am not. Why? My attending
would mean that I approve of a false gospel.
Bev Boxberger
You cannot help but be
affected by this film, whether positively or negatively, and
exit the theatre with a feeling that something monumental has
just occurred. Filled with a graphic representation of the brutality
of Jesus' death, it may pain the viewer. I did not expect the
flowing amount of violence inflicted. Besides this very obvious
point, I would like to say that the influence of Catholicism
is clearly OVERT. If I had not known that this film was made
by a devout Catholic, the inclusion of Mary, mother of Jesus,
would have shown me otherwise. There is SO MUCH Mary, and frequently
these picturesque frames of her tears. Was I affected by this
film? Yes, of course. But I do have to say that I felt imposed
upon by my fellow watchers to experience an emotional response.
The imposition of this made focusing somewhat belabored. My word
to you, as just a normal, 21-year old, non-theologican college
student: DO NOT PUT EXPECTATIONS UPON THIS FILM. JUST COME IN.
WATCH IT. LET THE HOLY SPIRIT DO WHAT HE WILL...BUT DON'T EXPECT
THE HEAVENS TO OPEN. IT IS JUST A FILM. IT IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED. The scriptures are for that.
Ruth Dixon
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I would like to say that the influence
of Catholicism is clearly OVERT. If I had
not known that this film was made by a devout
Catholic, the inclusion of Mary, mother of
Jesus, would have shown me otherwise.

Ruth
Dixon
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Since this talk is from
people who haven't seen the whole film or have read articles.
I read in an article that you don't see in english "Let Jesus'
Blood be on our heads and also our childrens children." Is that
Midrash of the Old Covenant Priest Sprinkling blood on Israel?
Brian Abell,
Canada
I've not seen the movie
yet.
However, it really troubles me that so many Christians are singing
this movies' praises. People are saying "God will 'use'
this movie to win people's hearts to Jesus"... Yes, God
can 'use' anything, even something depraived to action His own
purposes, but that doesn't mean that it should be used by Christians
as an evangelising 'tool'. . Moriel's comments are one of the
very few which I care to take on board - thank you. While the masses
of Western church-goers are blindly tripping over themselves to
see this blockbuster, it's comforting to know that a few of us
are still discerning enough to see past the razzamataz and know
it's just one of many of the enemy's red herrings...
Alison,
Australia
Just a question: If the
'Holy Spirit' will be working through this movie as claimed
by the producer, then will kids under 13 have to wait for their
next birthday to be touched by God?
As one who has been through
the empty motions of the Catholic Faith ever since childhood,
I doubt very much that Mel Gibson
is purposefully being used as a 'tool' by the Vatican to pledge
allegiance to the Pope as some claim. I do however feel that
Mel is searching for the peace of Christ in his own life, just
as I did years ago wanting to know the reality of Jesus as a
Catholic kid. The most crucial issue that faces this film is
the question many people (non-Christians in particular) will
be hit with when they exit the movie house... 'where to now?
I want to live for God... I guess I'll join the closest church
to where I live.'
Here is where I believe the danger lies. Just
slotting into a church because of the classification that it's
'Christian'
can result in your spiritual DEATH or your spiritual LIFE! And
that's a fact, I've been there... many of us have. The difference
in being moved by a powerful emotion during a movie is one thing,
but to be moved by the Holy Spirit to live a life of sacrifice
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